From friends and family and so on
Elad
Noremac (or could be Noramac to make it look better)
Nylorac (could be twins)
Ydnew
Leahcim
Werdna
Nahtan (hmm... this one's almost Elvish... maybe a smith with red hair?)
Ekul
Nirtak
Etak
Ardnaxela
Anewor
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A few more by
on 2008-09-02 09:36:00 UTC
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If it makes you feel better... by
on 2008-09-02 05:58:00 UTC
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I can't understand how anyone could not get slash. ^_^" If you don't like the romance genre, then that's fine by me, but I don't get why someone would enjoy het pairings but not slash ones (unless said slash pairing breaks up their het OTP- I understand that all too well).
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Mmm, I agree: Mostly harmless. But then again, remember... by
on 2008-09-02 04:55:00 UTC
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...where else that's been said. grin Ah, Douglas Adams...
But yeah; mostly harmless. For now, at least.
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Mmm... all good points. To clarify... by
on 2008-09-02 04:52:00 UTC
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I was talking about both average-rated romance femslash and pure smut stories, as I'm really no judge of slashfic quality.
I suppose it's worth stating here that, after reading those forty different interviews, many of them from you lovely PPCrs (hugs), it's easy to conclude that I am (once again) something of the odd one out. I just can't bring myself to read slash that's beyond what can be talked off as friednship; I don't know why. I'm just traditional, I guess, and I always - in any subject - tend to stick with what I know. My own sexuality has a huge impact on what I read and write, and "fun pairings" have never appealed to me.
Maybe that's the problem? My lack of imagination? Or simple squickiness. I've got nothing against it, of course, but I just... I still don't get it. Intellectually, I agree with every point you guys have made
... I could start a long rant now on What's Wrong With Friendship?, but that's probably not a good idea. I tend to get dramatic. And I'm rambling far enough off-topic anyway.
But if nothing else, at least this makes the theoretical side of things clearer, and that's mainly what I need for my essay. I do feel a bit blind, though.
(And Lycaenion, to be honest, I haven't read Wicked yet, either; I'm talking mainly about the musical adaptation and all the fanfic for that.)
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I've received emails from... by
on 2008-09-02 02:32:00 UTC
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Fynn, Kitsune, Makari and Ansela. If anyone else has sent some, I'm afraid I haven't got them.
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Another theory... by
on 2008-09-02 02:25:00 UTC
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It could be them writing what they know. After all, for all that we've taken sex ed, we do know our own bodies better than those of the opposite gender. It may be easier for females (regardless of sexual preference) to visualize what two women would do than what two men (or even a man and a woman) would do.
That said, it could easily be for one of the reasons listed below.
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Re: OT: Why do straight women write femslash? by
on 2008-09-02 02:01:00 UTC
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I'd imagine similar reasons apply to writing f/f as writing m/m. Not having the appropriate manly bits, I can't really appreciate an m/m fic by identifying hugely with one or other character, but they're still interesting to read and write about, because we're not talking about pr0n here, we're talking about stories about people. You might as well ask why authors who happen to be lesbians write straight couples. The author's sexuality should have no more bearing on characters or plot or anything else than, for example, their skin colour or nationality.
Of course, if we are talking blatant pr0n, that's another matter entirely, and I doubt you'd get many wholly and comfortably heterosexual women writing PWP femmeslash. If you're writing or reading for the sex, after all, it's pretty pointless reading or writing about sex that really doesn't do anything for you.
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I've found some of it, by
on 2008-09-02 02:00:00 UTC
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a user called 'srynoramen' has the first 25 or so eps uploaded, which will keep me busy for a while. Found the manga on MangaFox.
And if I'd known Shin Miki was in it then I would have started watching it ages ago. He's one of my favourite seiyu.
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You think that's bad, you try writing "Yuminyan" sometime. (nm) by
on 2008-09-02 01:57:00 UTC
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Quite a lot of it, last time I checked. by
on 2008-09-02 01:56:00 UTC
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Or you can read the manga online if you want. prepares silver tray of links
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I think it's more that they write any pairing... by
on 2008-09-02 01:55:00 UTC
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... that they find interesting. I can't really comment, even though I like slash and femslash, because I'm bi. I have a straight friend who quite likes m/m but gets squicked at f/f. Maybe the straight women who write femslash just see a specific pairing and think "Oh, they are so together." Then they write it, not because it's hot, but because it's a romantic pairing that they find interesting. You don't have to find something "hot" to enjoy writing it. I mean, look at all the SyaoSaku fans. I doubt many of them see their relation as anything other than "omg so cute".
Most likely though is that they're just open-minded and mature enough to not let something like sexuality get in the way of writing a fun pairing.
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Okay, might have to call my assassins in too ... by
on 2008-09-02 01:27:00 UTC
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Sadly they both love NIN and would be rendered catatonic by what happens to it in this thing, so I don't know how much help they'd be.
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Sent an enrolment in... by
on 2008-09-02 00:57:00 UTC
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however, Gmail is being annoying and eating emails currently so it may have gone missing. Did you get it, Cass?
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Replacement!Stu by
on 2008-09-02 00:46:00 UTC
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there's not even a tiny smidge of the real Harry in that character. Not a jot. I say kill it.
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*ponders* by
on 2008-09-02 00:39:00 UTC
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Hmmm... while it is most likely true that lesbian/bi women might do a better job of writing femslash, it's perfectly possible that a straight woman could see two female characters as 'meant for each other,' and want to write this.
Or perhaps they feel that part of a certain female character's pysche is due to them pining for another female, and want to make this part of their story.
(N.B: I have not yet read Wicked, and the above are generalizations that probably don't support your example.)
However, if you're talking about bad or PWP fanfiction, I think you're right in saying that "omg they're so hawt!" isn't the correct reason.
But if f/f romance is an interesting plot point rather than just vapid porn, I don't think women have to be straight to write it.
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*shrugs* by
on 2008-09-02 00:33:00 UTC
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For me, writing any relationship is a progression from what potential I can see for it in canon. If I see potential for a f/f sexual relationship, then that's what I'll write. If I feel up to writing smut for it, then why shouldn't I? It has nothing to do with my own personal sexuality.
Hope this helps you.
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Bleh. Sorry for the italics. (nm) by
on 2008-09-02 00:24:00 UTC
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OT: Why do straight women write femslash? by
on 2008-09-02 00:23:00 UTC
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Most of you know about the research paper I'm doing for university; a broad overview of the world of fanfiction. I've finally finished sifting through all the data from interviews and other research, but a few gaps remain. So I'm throwing the question out to you:
Why do straight women write femslash?
I don't really understand slash at all, but that's personal preferance. I've been told, by many interviewees, that straight women can enjoy writing m/m slash because it lets them oggle two attractive guys without female competition (as well as simply "being hot"), but my Logic Circuits short out when I try to apply similar logic to straight women writing f/f slash.
Admittedly, I haven't got solid demographics here; it could be that a large part of femslash is written by bisexual or lesbian women. I don't know. What I do know is that I've been exploring the Wicked archive on FFN (which, if you don't know, is by and large a story about the friendship between two women, Glinda and Elphaba - there's also the man who ends up caught in a love triangle with them, Fiyero (eventually ending up with Elphaba), and another male interest that's quite often paired with Glinda), and I found that there is a (wonderful!) shortage of Mary Sues, an average amount of het romance (Fiyero/Elphaba, or Glinda/other guy, mostly), and a huge, HUGE amount of ("Gelphie") femslash.
As I find it hard to believe that so many writers for that one fandom just happen to be lesbian or bisexual women, I just don't get it.
(And let me disclaim that I mean no offense to anyone, of course. My preferances are my own and until now, I just avoided slash issues as much as possible because I don't understand and don't want to offend anyone. But for the sake of doing this essay right, I need to know, and my poor, pitiable Logic Circuits are crying out for mercy. Help?)
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Yes, the point is... by
on 2008-09-01 23:46:00 UTC
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you fill out the form as a TRC fanbrat and send them in to go through the OFU. I don't quite think Kitsune grasped that, but we can work with his form.
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Looks like. by
on 2008-09-01 23:46:00 UTC
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A fairly good-natured one, maybe. Mostly harmless. :P I laughed in spite of myself.
Pirate Bob. shakes head People do the strangest things.
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*fills out form* by
on 2008-09-01 23:44:00 UTC
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Never been to an OFU before, but hey, Tsubasa.
The application doesn't have to be exactly for us, does it? I mean, we can fill it out as though we were a particularly horrid Suethor or something like that?
Just making sure. ; )
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Certainly seems that way. by
on 2008-09-01 21:31:00 UTC
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And I think we can let him be, unless he starts harassing other users.
He certainly shows more intelligence and wit than the average troll (even though that's not really saying much), which is a nice change.
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*is giggling madly* by
on 2008-09-01 20:46:00 UTC
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Pirates. I love it.
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Relatively harmless, but lulzy. (nm) by
on 2008-09-01 19:11:00 UTC
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