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Mae govannen! (nm) by
on 2008-09-03 22:15:00 UTC
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I'm thinking about the day Acacia left... by
on 2008-09-03 22:14:00 UTC
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Jay seemed so sad and frustrated until Rhus showed up.
And I also note that Jay and Acy's little argument in one of the missions in the TOS (I think it was the Aria one) that ended up in the two being seperated on different sides of the Bridge for a night was pretty sad, too.
These aren't really tearjerking, but they're pretty sad.
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Waaaaaiiiiitttt... by
on 2008-09-03 22:10:00 UTC
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Evil little Nazgul plotbunnies from OFUM are chasing Harry Potter? Does Meir Brin know about this?
(Couldn't resist, sorry)
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It is rather hilarious. I mean... by
on 2008-09-03 22:07:00 UTC
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the stories read like actual pirate yarns. So I'm thinking it's somewhat of a troll. Or if not, then it's a creative way of presenting a fanfic.
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Okay, I'll look after him. (nm) by
on 2008-09-03 16:09:00 UTC
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Again, though... by
on 2008-09-03 12:17:00 UTC
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... why would they be? They're not written to annoy, as far as I can see. The spelling and grammar and such seem to be quite good. The only reason you could class them as trollish rather than humour or parody is that five of them don't list either of those as their genres.
My understanding is that a trollfic is designed to trick people into thinking it's an unintentionally awful fic by someone who can't write, thus annoying the readers and amusing (somehow) the author. Now, if there were a vast community of writers about a well-spoken Pirate Puddleglum, then the accented version could be considered a troll, being deliberate misunderstanding of what it means for him to be a pirate. But (I sincerely hope) there isn't. So I'm still not sure how they qualify as trolls.
hS
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Huzzah! Another badfic fallen! Also... by
on 2008-09-03 09:01:00 UTC
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I noticed a mini-Balrog. Will Lladan need a place to stay? If so, the Adoptions Centre is always open.
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I didn't mean it that way! by
on 2008-09-03 07:33:00 UTC
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I was just going off on a tangent; it wasn't a reaction to anything you said. Sorry for the mix-up!
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Most. Cue the Suethors... by
on 2008-09-03 07:31:00 UTC
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And then, of course, there's also the lack of physical presence, which is rather important to many people. ;)
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Well, who is? I mean, we can only ever know one gender: by
on 2008-09-03 07:11:00 UTC
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Our own. I don't know about women feeling more comfortable with their bodies - there's certainly enough "This Is Pretty And You Don't Match Up" fashion around - but how can any of us really compare with another person? It involves getting completely inside their heads.
That said, it's a good theory. Cheers!
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You know... by
on 2008-09-03 05:06:00 UTC
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I've been puzzling over my own shipping preferences ever since I noticed that slash ticked me off, but femslash didn't. And from there, I can only bring myself to read femslash, not write it. Interesting double standards, aye?
I think it's because females feel more comfortable with their own bodies. So when they read femslash, they understand what the author might be going at in the writing. But hey, I don't know...I'm no sexuality expert.
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Sorry if you misunderstood me. by
on 2008-09-03 04:30:00 UTC
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I didn't mean you were homophobic or anything like that- prejudice in the real world and prejudice in what you like reading are two very different things.
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unless you're already... by
on 2008-09-03 00:27:00 UTC
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... of an introspective and delusional turn of mind, I don't think fanfic will ever really replace an actual relationship, I mean, most people are fully aware that the characters are fictional :)
... most
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Well, I didn't mean you guys; PPCers are very understanding by
on 2008-09-03 00:24:00 UTC
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I was referring more to the other fanficcers out there, but nonetheless, it's comforting to hear someone say so. I'm most comfortable being honest; it's just such a touchy subject.
In any case, to follow your point there, Trojie, here's something to consider: While I was dating my last boyfriend, I read very, very few fanfic romances. After we broke up I delved into them, and now I read them on-and-off, but with no real "I want fluffy romance NOW" urges.
See a connection? ;) I suppose it's an extension of the escapism and fantasy aspects of fanfic; whether or not this 'substitution' is a good thing remains up for debate - my 2c is that daydreaming in fiction hasn't stopped me from looking for real life relationships.
(I can't say I had any hightening of interest in slash while I was dating, though. I don't think so.)
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Dumbledore/Grindelwald, for instance? by
on 2008-09-03 00:19:00 UTC
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(I don't exactly have access to Torchwood...)
I'll look around for a good fic like that, then. It's definitely a good idea; thanks for suggesting it! I really don't know how I'll react. I'll keep to a midrange rating, though.
Cheers!
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I agree by
on 2008-09-02 23:56:00 UTC
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Saying that you don't enjoy reading about homosexual romance doesn't make you a homophobe, it just makes you honest :)
For my two cents, I dunno if this helps, but I find het romance fics ... er, boring. I dunno. I'm heterosexual, I'm engaged so, y'know, it's not that I'm against participating in a het romance myself. But reading about it makes me yawn. I'll read it, it doesn't squick me. But it doesn't grab my interest. Whereas slash pairings are always different.
This isn't always a good thing; for a start, they're usually written by straight people, which means you get a lot of what we could call mechanical errors, but ... it generally means they aren't as formulaic as a het pairing, esp. in a canon where homosexuality isn't common.
I'll stop rambling now :)
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I misspoke. I meant whether the fics were trollfics. by
on 2008-09-02 20:26:00 UTC
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Sorry for not realizing this sooner.
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Why call it a troll? by
on 2008-09-02 19:26:00 UTC
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As I understand it, a troll is someone who spams a forum with unwanted posts, or writes deliberately bad 'fics just to provoke a reaction. This one looks like a straightforward parody/humour to me. So why "troll"?
hS
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That's a good idea. by
on 2008-09-02 15:38:00 UTC
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I think the best moments for Jack/Ianto are the kiss in "They Keep Killing Suzie" (series 1) and Jack asking Ianto on a date in "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang" (series 2).
Anything else with a canonical slash pairing would work, too.
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a possible test? by
on 2008-09-02 15:18:00 UTC
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Honestly, though, I don't think that's it.
You could test the theory by watching Torchwood. Jack and Ianto are definitely a canonical couple, if that scene in "Adrift" is anything to go by.
And, if we're being honest, when it comes to romance fic I must admit to being somewhat heterophobic. It just... doesn't maintain my interest in the slightest. I'll have a ponder about why, in case that helps shed some light.
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There's nothing wrong with that. by
on 2008-09-02 12:54:00 UTC
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Everyone has their squick. My dad can't stand slash either. I've got plenty of things that make me go "Ew." I don't think you're a homophobe just because of that.
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Actually, that's just the thing... by
on 2008-09-02 10:18:00 UTC
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I love romance. I go all aww-ish and gooey over them. It might be my favourite genre. But every time I try to read slash, be it m/m or f/f, I just can't. It appears to be my personal squick, and I have no idea why.
I suppose it might be that the slash pairs break up my ideas of "correct" pairings - all of which, now that I think about it, are the deliberate canonical pairings. I've never found myself "seeing the potential" for pairings other than the established, except in cases where the characters never have an established partner. shrugs Perhaps, in that regard, I simply have no imagination.
Honestly, though, I don't think that's it. It sounds so terribly biased saying it, and I feel dreaful, but the mental image of two men or two women kissing - even if they're not characters I know - is possibly the most unromantic thing I can imagine. And it's horrible of me, but it's true.
If I may go on a slight tangent, it annoys me to no end that if a bisexual or gay person says they can't stand het relationships, they're practically martyred as "forward thinking" and "confidant", but if I say the same thing in reverse, I'm labled a homophobe. I'm not. I'm really not; I have nothing against homosexuality; I have gay friends, and I'm glad that people can be happy. It's just not for me. In Real Life or fanfic.
Perhaps the best illustration is thus: I'm perfectly fine with knowing the biological theory of how I came to exist, but that doesn't mean I'm happy to watch my parents have sex. I just don't need to see that.
... and I'm rambling again, aren't I? I do appreciate your attempt to make me feel better.